tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post8347048698684005013..comments2023-08-26T09:34:18.163-05:00Comments on Dead Theologians: My Favorite BaptistsJared Nelsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18445783451815077626noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-21209938028711912732008-09-19T20:53:00.000-05:002008-09-19T20:53:00.000-05:00Fuller took on the Hypers too. Purely a Baptist p...Fuller took on the Hypers too. Purely a Baptist problem there. But Fuller taking them on launched a great missionary movement. (William Carey!) And Fuller was self educated. Also Edwards helped out with "Freedom of the will", good old Reformed and the Baptists who love them. Also good theology that leads to great things!Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416032905333342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-80414402546266490872008-09-18T20:51:00.000-05:002008-09-18T20:51:00.000-05:00Spurgeon vs. Hyper-calvinism made me feel like Gil...Spurgeon vs. Hyper-calvinism made me feel like Gill was pretty bad, but it made me love Spurgeon alot. He had such a passion for Grace and the Gospel, I like him alot. Judson was my old Pastor's hero and he'd talk about him all the time. Good ol' baptists.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752373297874435269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-70135917857563160412008-09-17T15:26:00.000-05:002008-09-17T15:26:00.000-05:00My only hesitation is on Gill really. Reading "Spu...My only hesitation is on Gill really. Reading "Spurgeon versus hyper-Calvinism" I take Spurgeon's side (as you are supposed to in the author's estimation.) I don't have a final verdict on Gill though because I can see the faults in his followers, but Gill is really good in what I've read on the doctrine of grace. <BR/><BR/>Except, he is more on the other side from Bunyan on caring about the doctrine of baptism. He sees all the possible references to baptism (like Ephesians 5:26) but will reject such a reading off-hand. Either he was well read in others (like Matthew Henry) and was offering a different take or otherwise he doth protest too much.Jared Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445783451815077626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-37775112464354334242008-09-17T13:17:00.000-05:002008-09-17T13:17:00.000-05:00I just read this again and get a kick out of this ...I just read this again and get a kick out of this post. You mostly say nice things about them but can not quite help yourself with the little digs can you? Love it! Your spirit is not far from mine bro. Ha! No offence I hope. :-)Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416032905333342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-7200609537032306292008-09-17T11:59:00.000-05:002008-09-17T11:59:00.000-05:00Bunyan was completely uneducated. Lewis enjoyed th...Bunyan was completely uneducated. Lewis enjoyed that an uneducated man wrote one of the greatest books in the English language, which he attributed to Bunyan's study of the Bible, displaying the Bible to be a great piece of literature if it was the education of Bunyan.Jared Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445783451815077626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-22659599003282518792008-09-17T10:34:00.000-05:002008-09-17T10:34:00.000-05:00I knew Bunyan had said that he did believe in cedo...I knew Bunyan had said that he did believe in cedo-baptism but did not wish to make an idol out of it and so he admitted the members. I did not know that he himself gave up his Baptist views, although this is worded in a way that makes me wonder if he did or just the church did. I agree with his sentiments but it does get to my concern with the Piper debate that the church then switched. Interesting. I have no opinion other than I would clearly never say someone is not a Christian over this issue and thus not part of the true invisible church or whatever you would call it.<BR/><BR/>Did Bunyan know Greek? I love that John Owen the greatest theologian the English world has probably produced liked to listen to his sermons. Just a lowly poor Baptist.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416032905333342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7615787.post-84449669049999032832008-09-17T07:54:00.000-05:002008-09-17T07:54:00.000-05:00THANK YOU!!! I would also include those like Back...THANK YOU!!! I would also include those like Backus and Martin Luther King Jr. There are some focus issues there with them I admit but Bunyan's imprisonment is a good example as to why Baptists like to promote liberty. Thank God for Owen who was of like mind on Bunyan and the wrongness of his and other Baptists persecution. I also intend to look into Fuller a bit more here soon. Ok then that is all I ask for. Now you can continue with your Baptist bashing. You have many a valid points. This is one Baptist who knows that neither he nor his tradition is perfect and is willing to forgive your Presbyterians history of giving us a really hard time! I mean really the jail and the burnings! Ouch! Since we have the same sinful hearts we would have done no different to you I am sure. :-) Plus you were not the only ones to dip us in cold water, cover us with brandy and set us on fire. We got that from many. Ha!<BR/><BR/>As for Judson part of that few here have read him is he did not write much for us to read. Outside of his publishing of his sermon on Baptism in English he spent his life writing some pretty important things for Burma to read instead of us. Their Bible translation that they still use today. Baptists approached them and asked if they would like help in creating a new one and they said "Thanks but no thanks, Judson's is quite good and we would like to keep it." And of course their first dictionary. His father saw him being the next Edwards or Whitefield but God had other plans.<BR/><BR/>Oh yes then there is William Cary and well anyway... LOTS of good Baptists then and today.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416032905333342957noreply@blogger.com